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McLaughlin advocates guns for self-defence
By: Alan Markoff | alan@cfp.ky
02 March 2010
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George Town MLA Alden McLaughlin advocated for gun ownership for self-defence purposes in the Legislative Assembly last week.

His comments came during debate on a Private Member’s Motion put forward by North Side MLA Ezzard Miller. The motion asked the government to consider amending the Firearms Law to establish a committee that includes two justices of the peace and the police commissioner to deal with applications for gun licences. Currently only the police commissioner decides whether a gun licence is issued.

Mr. McLaughlin said he was not advocating for everyone to have the right to bear arms, but he did say he was concerned that the decision on who was granted a gun licence was vested with only the police commissioner. 

Although Mr. Miller’s motion only addressed the situation where some Caymanians are being denied gun licences for shotguns used to hunt rabbits and ducks, Mr. McLaughlin brought the subject of self-defence into the debate.

“I see no reason… why someone who wants to own a firearm for his or her protection in their own home should have to go through hoops, and in many cases be denied the right to own a firearm,” he said.

“With the situation that we have now, those who don’t apply… are the ones who wield firearms at will.”

Mr. McLaughlin was referring to the increased amount of gun crime with illegal firearms in recent times. 

It is unclear whether the George Town legislator was advocating the right to own a gun for self-defence only for Caymanians or for the wider population.

The motion was also supported by Bodden Town MLA Anthony Eden, who spoke fondly of a named gun “Old Betsy”, and East End MLA Arden McLean, who seconded the motion.

“I do not advocate the right to bear arms,” said Mr. McLean, “but I do advocate the right to own arms for certain purposes.”

In introducing the motion, Mr. Miller said he had received recent representation from farmers and others in the community who were experiencing difficulty for their children to get licences for guns that have been in the family for many years.  He said guns were needed to control gardening pests such as the agouti, also known as Cayman rabbit.

“Agouti can quite easily destroy ground provisions, in particular, at an alarming rate,” he said.

He dismissed the idea that rabbits could be killed by poison, and he told of a comment made to him by someone who heard a previous police commissioner suggest at a public meeting that they could be killed that way.

“How can he be the chief of police if he don’t know I can’t eat rabbit after I poison it,” Mr. Miller said the man told him, getting a laugh from the other legislators.

Mr. Miller said that adding two Caymanian justices of the peace to a committee that decided on gun licence applications would give a “certain comfort that the deliberations were fair” even if the applications were denied.

Deputy Governor Donovan Ebanks responded on behalf of the government, saying that in the 20 months ending in January 2010, 97 per cent of all applications were successful resulting in the issuance of 55 gun licences.

“It appears to me, based on those statistics, if three per cent of the applicants are not successful, it would suggest, at least in my view - in the government’s view - there isn’t a need to address the regime for the issuance of gun licences.”

Mr. Ebanks also said that there was already a mechanism in the law that allowed for decisions of the police commissioner with relation to gun licence applications to be appealed to the Governor in Cabinet.

“Unfortunately, the government is unable to accept the motion,” he concluded.

Leader of the Opposition Kurt Tibbetts said he would be interested to know if the 55 licences issued represented new grants or renewals.

Regardless, he said, “statistics don’t change the intent of the motion having a valid rationale behind it.”

Mr. Tibbetts also wondered if anyone had ever appealed a decision to deny an application for a gun licence because he couldn’t recall ever hearing of one. He suggested that there could be many people who had been denied gun licences in the past, who never bothered to appeal because they thought the appeal would not have been successful.

The motion was defeated eight votes to six, with all five members of the Opposition and Mr. Miller voting in favour of it.  Government minister Rolston Anglin was absent from the chamber when the vote was taken.

 
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McLaughlin advocates guns for self-defence
Posted by big berd on 3/3/2010 11:14:55 AM

The actual fact of gun ownership, much to the dismay of anti gun advocates.

Here is some facts about the decrease in any state that allows gun ownership for protection. I won't spew out opinion.

http://www.guninformation.org/
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4706
and how about two FBI resources
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2009/1223/More-guns-equal-more-crime-Not-in-2009-FBI-crime-report-shows.

Gun crime is not done by people who legally carry guns. Gun crime and murder is done by people who are NOT legal to carry guns. By taking away guns or not allowing people who are law abiding, to protect thier homes with guns. Puts them in harms way, by the people who break into your homes WITH guns.

and finally, a sobering statistic from the FBI

4. States that allow registered citizens to carry concealed weapons have lower crime rates than those that don't.

True. The 31 states that have "shall issue" laws allowing private citizens to carry concealed weapons have, on average, a 24 percent lower violent crime rate, a 19 percent lower murder rate and a 39 percent lower robbery rate than states that forbid concealed weapons. In fact, the nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all right-to-carry states. Remarkably, guns are used for self-defense more than 2 million times a year, three to five times the estimated number of violent crimes committed with guns.

So can you argue with facts. Probably. But if you expect the fine officers to be there, at the time, or before the buglar enters your home. That is just not possible. And I am willing to bet, if everyone owned a gun for home protection only. It would seriously make anyone thinking about breaking into that next home, really think long and hard if his life is worth the money they are going to get from your tv set.
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McLaughlin advocates guns for self-defence
Posted by North on 3/2/2010 1:46:35 PM

Please do not allow guns for so called self defence.
Americans have the right to carry guns and they have ten of thousnads of gun deaths every year. Soon more people and more children will be killed as inocent bystanders. Please keep working on gun control and no guns. Thats the only way to keep Cayman safe.
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